Christianity : critical thinking

discussing these conflicting aspects in greater detail.

I haven't set out here to simply attack Christianity, but to try to present an overall view of what I perceive of the world - no single religion has all the answers (if Catholicism/Christianity is right, does that mean that Muslims are wrong, or even Hindu?). Hence why I have taken the approach of 'taking little pieces from many religions to mould my own view'.
Christianity does need special mentioning, as it is a faith held by many in the western world - over one third of the world's population are christians.
Every US president ever elected has been a christian. Yet in Australia, 5 of Australia's prime ministers haven't believed in a christian god (#4).

We are all spiritual beings, having a human experience. Being a spiritual person doesn't necessarily mean prescribing to a particular faith.
Part of what I dislike about christianity is that it has become too secular, overwhelmed by the ingrained dogma/doctrines, almost as if it seems to have forgotten about the essence ... that is, spirit or soul ... as well as the questions - Why are we here? What is my individual purpose in life?

To begin with, we have 3 major Christian groups - Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant (below these are the medium size groups : Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical and Anglican). Within these groups, it's then broken down further into various branches or denominations. As well as all these different denominations, we then also have 'the traditional view' + 'the reformed view'.
Perhaps it is through something similar to 'the reformed view' that will allow christianity to flourish into the future?

The holy trinity ... similarities to the astral plane.
Almost all Christian denominations and churches hold trinitarian beliefs. That is, the one god comprises of three distinct, eternally co-existing persons; the Father, the Son (incarnate in Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Together, these three persons are sometimes called the Godhead in christian teachings.

Interestingly, in Hinduism and spirituality - as well as when discussing 'the astral plane' - the term Godhead is used as meaning for "that which is at the centre of everything in life, through which all emanates".
Are religions all trying to describe the same thing, but from a different point of view?
There is no wrong point of view, just different perspectives and approaches.

Religion and Faith has never been constant ... there is always change (growth) of a positive nature happening.
The world around us is forever changing, so why does a religion need to stay constant? Simply put, It doesn't! And hasn't !!!
For instance, each catholic pope has the ability to officially change the general catholic beliefs while pontiff (although, rarely are any controversial matters considered). Part of Pope Francis' tasks is to do with that of reforming the Catholic church within certain aspects.

Which also gives rise to the question, do we need to stay true to the same single faith for the complete length of our life?
Or are we constantly changing and evolving spiritually as well?

A couple of issues about the traditional christian view that don't abode well with me ...

• 1.) 'god considers everyone as equal' ... yet a person's gender disqualifies them from certain roles within the Church.

  It has only been the last couple of decades the Christian church has caught up. Women's rights, use of condoms, female ministers, possibility of gay marriage, possible end to priests taking a vow of celibacy.

  YET ...

  Within the upper clergy of the church it's still a male dominated domain only, where women are subservient to men.
  While this style of thinking may have reflected society at the time (prior to 1950 - ie. 'the housewife era'), it certainly doesn't reflect current society - where elsewhere within society, women are considered on equal footing to men.

  I personally feel that women should have a stronger role within the church, and be allowed to carry out the same duties as males.
  After all, they are dedicating their lives to a spiritual path in much the same way as men - so why should there be a barrier based on gender?
  
  Around 580 AD, the orthodox Christian Church debated as to whether women actually have a soul (at the time, some within the church considered that the soul of a woman was non-existent) ... this was when, many within the orthodox Christian Church viewed women as inferior/imperfect beings. This discussion was based partly on how biblical scripture was to be interpreted ... but it also highlights the attitudes of general society at the time, and how women were (mis)treated by many around them.
  Worth reading ... The Christian Church and Women's Rights ... for further reading on a part of history that is somewhat glossed over.
  
  I ask the question ... are women truly the same as men on a spiritual level?
  Yes, I believe they are. It's just the outer body (physical form) that is different, yet at a meta-physical (spiritual/soul) level we're all the same.
  So why should women be treated as any less-of a human being than that of a man?
  Again, this comes back to the biblical Christian scriptures ... that have helped shape society over the years.
• 2.) Opposing the use of IVF treatment, abortion, euthanasia ... and ultimately even contraception - use of condoms and the pill.
  Catholicism takes an especially hard line on this aspect, more than any other Christian faith.
  
  
  This area is very personal in nature for myself.
  IVF in particular ... I strongly support IVF treatment.
  I've made a personal choice on the issue, even though it goes against Christian beliefs.
  Interestingly, in recent years - 'the Church' (proper) is softening its stance on this issue, and doesn't judge those people as harshly as what it used to. Even though the official (formal) stance is still the same as it always has been... denouncing and condemning such views,
  "as an act that is a sin against God and creation".
  
  Many Christians take the view : that by utilising science during IVF procedures, humans are in fact 'playing the role of God' ... I would like to point out, that while science has perfected the art of creating embryos/babies (physical form) ... science is still a long way off from being able to join the body of an IVF baby with that of a soul (metaphysical) ... that aspect is entirely God's (or the spiritual/divine realm's) hand at play!
  Those that are Christian, surely must realise ... there is more to a person than just the physical body - I allude to the spirit/soul here, and if science hasn't worked out how they join together, how can science truly play the hand of God?

  In terms of abortion : in my view ...

  I consider 'the soul' to be an entirely separate entity (existing in a meta-physical realm entirely outside of the body) ... yet acting in harmony with the spirit + physical body ('local mind') ... to form the embryo/baby/person what you/I know of.
  While it would be true to say that, 'Abortion would prevent the soul to experience the gift of an entire/long life in this body' ... the soul would live on regardless - but maybe the soul knew that already before joining with the embryo? (something that was hinted at in the book 'Journey of Souls', in that there are certain aspects that the soul knows prior to it being incarnated with a physical body).

  If we bring into the abortion debate : the question as to whether a soul can reincarnate at a future point? ... rather than just one single chance for the soul to prove whether it is going to spend an eternity in heaven/hell.
  This potentially weakens the basis of Salvation - which is the core of Christian thinking.

  Also for the soul to experience what life is like "in the body" ... then that certainly starts to lessen the negative aspects to abortion.
  Although reincarnation isn't a 'traditional' Christian belief (even though there's many non-practicing Christians that consider it to be true) ... as you will see in a point I have highlighted further below. An alternative view worth considering.

  It is estimated around 1 in 4 pregnancies in Australia, or about 80,000 per year, end in abortion. (#13)
  This is a total estimate, including various practices : eg. medical (RU486 pill), surgical, etc ... yet the vast majority of abortions in Australia are via surgical procedures.
  In mid 2016, it was called for, that more rural GP's in Australia be able to prescribe the RU486 pill (effectively making every GP an abortion clinic, as such) - this suggestion was voiced from those that work in the medical field ... due to an increasing need within today's society.

  Also worth noting ... Victoria is one the most liberal/progressive states in Australia in terms of Abortion law reform, although there are other countries around the world with similar laws/views ... eg. Sweden, France and Scotland.

  I do feel that women/couples should have the right to make a choice in terms of abortion - although it's a decision that should be given considerable thought. Every soul/person has a 'free will' as to exactly which path they take in their life ... it's their own soul's path not anyone else's (not even GOD). Such a "free will" or decision should not be coerced by others (and especially not by any religious group).
  The parents have a free-will to choose (whether they plan to abort of not)... ALSO ... worth noting, the soul of an unborn baby (foetus) also has free-will (in terms of "still-births" etc) - in some situations, the doctor has mentioned that, "it's as if the baby didn't have the will to live" (in terms of pre-term deaths).

  Abortion Is as Old as Pregnancy: 4,000 Years of Reproductive Rights History ... which has important information worth disseminating.

  Every situation is different ... but all should have the right to decide and choose - which path they desire to take in life.
  It's their choice not that of other people (many of whom may have no direct attachment to the situation or outcome).
  These anti-abortion lobby groups ... are they going to be there for the parents in future years, to provide support?
  ... both financial + emotional ... And help care for the child all the way through until they are of 18 years of age?

  Partially related - this is also at a time when the Australian government is trying to break the "welfare cycle" of lower class people, and trying to shift them away from having to rely on Centerlink/government payments to survive. In terms of Abortion - every situation is different.

  Related to this point ...

  There's been much controversy regarding WA's new hospital in Midland (which is serviced by Catholic St. John of God).
  In the original planning of the hospital (prior to being built/completed), an abortion and contraception clinic had been planned to be built right nearby the hospital.
  Yet, there were unfair restrictions placed upon it - due to the Catholic religious beliefs of the hospital provider (eg. clients couldn't share same car park as hospital. the building couldn't even utilise same electricity source, it had to be a completely separate line in from the grid). Even a vasectomy is not allowed to be performed within the hospital (due to the Catholic provider placing restrictions). Instead, the procedure must be done at the clinic nearby.

  Ultimately, due to so many restrictions (and yet there being a true need for the services within the community) ...
  the abortion/contraception clinic is now being run from the Marie Stopes centre, roughly 5 minutes down the road.

  In a way, this issue highlights ... are traditional Christian views/beliefs still relevant in a modern society?
  Does it disadvantage the general community in the process of upholding these (potentially outdated) Christian views?

  And yet, this is primarily a public hospital (307 public beds, compared to 60 private), funded by both state and federal governments (also noted : private hospital situated in same building) ... just that the provider overseeing the day-to-day running of the hospital has Catholic beliefs (St. John of God).
  Further reading : abc.net.au : midland abortion clinic's future in doubt (posted 02.02.15).

  While I don't have any stats on hand, I'd imagine Midland WA would be similar to that of Balga - with a very high rate of unplanned teen pregnancies. The Midland hospital would also cover servicing the Balga suburb as it's close nearby.
  Indecently, Balga High School is well known for its specialised programs regarding teens in school while raising an infant child.

  Also worth mentioning
  In September 2015, The leading figure of Catholicism : Pope Francis, gave a speech that proposed a change that allowed priests to forgive women (during Holy year) that have had an abortion. Pope Francis' current views certainly do contradict those set out by the 'traditional' Catholic views ... hence ... perhaps it is time that Catholic followers/providers also take a softer stance on the issue of abortion.

• 3.) Psychics, Mediums, Astrology and other Paranormal Phenomena.
  The modern church considers Psychics, Mediums, Astrology the work of witchcraft/new-age, and will often have you absolved from the church if you even consider these views.
  I feel, this stems from Christianity in the early 1800's - a period when there were many deceptive characters only after money. Also it was during this historical period that in Great Britain the witchcraft act of 1735 existed - hence, in the UK prior to the 1930's it was a punishable crime to practice (or even for newspapers to publish) astrology.
  
  Although, ultimately - it comes back to Christianity condemning such views continuously right from when Jesus was alive, through to present day. Christianity denounces such views, suggesting that those people will be going to hell and equates it to the work of the devil (it should be mentioned, that prior to 1911, more than 96% of the western population were Christians - back then, this would have a strong influence on how society as a whole view psychics/mystics/mediums/astrology, as well as, the laws that a country were to set in place).
  
  As many christian church websites have stated 'Astrology is undoubtedly incompatible with the christian faith'.

  I have found that during discussions, strongly devoted Christians have often quoted verses from the bible to try to discredit psychics,mediums,etc to show that it goes against the word of God. The most-used verses from the bible exist in the old testament ...

  • Leviticus 19:31 - "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God."
  • Leviticus 20:6 - "As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people."
  • Isaiah 47:13-14 - The bible clearly states that astrologers will be amongst those burned in God's judgement.
  • Deuteronomy 18:10-14 - which says that anyone who is a medium, a spiritist or practices divination, is going against the word of God. The verse goes on to say that it is forbidden by God for people to listen to those who practice in divination.

  Below passage is a well-thought answer quoted from Eva on Yahoo Answers regarding Leviticus 19:31 ...

  One should be able to see the errant logic in this particular verse, which is rooted in fear and control; it has, built within it, a contradiction, namely, why would Absolute Autarchy (God) create individuals with clairvoyant gifts in the first place?
  Those who raise (or have raised) their consciousness closer to Christ consciousness are automatically granted this gift, albeit most have no idea why they have such abilities.
  To wit, the God-man, Yeshua Immanuel the Christ, and other man-gods such as the Buddha, demonstrated these very same gifts. In truth, every single person walking the Earth is psychic, but in varying degrees.
  As we spiritually evolve, all will be imbued with abilities now deemed "taboo", e.g. clairvoyance, clairaudience, projection, exosomatosis, telepathy, materialization, etc.
  Recall: "Ye are Gods and Children of the Most High" - Psalm 82.6 (now, if Christ taught this, I would pay no heed to those who claim "psychics and mediums are of the devil"...especially since very few have actually met "the devil", nor could elaborate on what "that" really is).

  After contacting Eva she has also given an additional caveat, which I feel is extremely relevant:

  The reason many - if not most - do not (yet) experience more noticeable psychic 'abilities' is borne out of Divine Wisdom of Absolute Being-ness ("God"), namely because some aren't ready at this phase in their spiritual growth to grapple with or understand the phenomena (read: it's for their own good). On the flip side, those who have these gifts are being primed to assist, but also have 'lessons to learn'.
  What is paramount first is to annihilate the ego-ism of the petty, present-day personality by introspection and meditation, starting with careful, objective, non-critical observation of one's emotions (each night, before falling asleep), namely around reactive feelings of irritation, vexation, fear, jealousy, annoyance lust and, *most* of all, anger. One must root out the cause of these feelings (sourced by the present-day ego-ism), otherwise, those prematurely seeking to develop these gifts will attract negative, lower vibrational forms into their reality...including in the psychic plane..much like moths to a flame.
  Total, unconditional love should be the first goal...including projecting high vibrational 'love' towards things that might un-nerve us. Incidentally, this is why I discourage those seeking to 'astrally project' or pursue hermetic modalities before purifying their present-day personality, i.e. namely to protect them.

  During a conversation, July 2014 - with a devout Christian (with a strong grounding in traditionalist views) it was pointed out to me that,
  The New Testament is also very clear regarding the condemnation of divination, astrology, psychics, witchcraft, sorcery, etc.
  The bible shows that : Jesus mentions that such people who practice in these arts are the types of people who'll be going to hell.

  The bible passages I was referred to (for further clarification) are ...

  • Galations 5:19-21
  • Acts 13:8-11
  • Acts 16 (in particular Acts 16:16-18)
  • Revelation 18:23
  • Revelation 21:7-8
  • Revelation 22:14-15

  The Catholic Church also formally condemns Astrology, Psychics, Mediums, etc.

  This is partly due to the 'Catechism of the Catholic Church' (essentially a summary of principles set out by the Vatican Council).
  The Catechism is essentially the core Catholic teachings that stand behind the general Catholic beliefs.

  Refer to the following sections :

  - CCC 2116
  
  

  "All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to 'unveil' the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone."

  
  - CCC 2117

  For a general christian view on astrology please read Chris Holland's blog. Chris is a pastor at a bapist church - and while I respect him and the good work that he does - as he points out, astrology inherently goes against what the bible says.
  gotquestions.org - a prominent christian website, even goes to the extreme to say that astrology is the work of satan ... a view, that shows - when challenged with something that goes against their faith, some christians tend to close their mind off to any other possibilities.
  One should ALWAYS keep an open mind when discussing anything of a spiritual/divine nature.
  

  While psychics/astrology/mediums may not be part of the christian faith, I believe that it is time that Christianity (as a whole) at least formally acknowledge it as being a form of divine guidance (of which, some people are truly gifted).

  Astrology has been around for far longer than christian religion (410BC is the oldest surviving evidence in a museum) - refer to astrology history.
  Many (often eastern) cultures have embraced it into their philosophy ... as well as other aspects of divination such as I Ching.

  While the christian faith vaguely (unofficially) acknowledges that these things can happen (ie. it must be "god" or "the devil" talking to you) ...
  Yet, any such open discussion of matters is often shunned upon. As mentioned within the book "We Don't Die" by George Anderson (who had a Catholic upbringing) ... there are some ministers/sisters (of the church) that have an open mind and are willing to discuss about these matters behind closed doors.

  Since the psychic medium George Anderson has broken down so many barriers in recent years (including many firsts) it's worth mentioning,

  • - George's abilities are highly regarded amongst people that are knowledgeable within religious fields.
  • - George had a christian upbringing, with his parents being strongly devout Catholics.
  • - during George's time within a mental health hospital ... the anti-psychotic drugs numbed his experiences, yet didn't prevent it.
  • - George's ability has stood the "test of time" (as well as many scientific experiments) ... as he believes, a gift from the spiritual realm.

  Yet, Psychics/Mediums - is an area that Christianity generally distances itself from publically.
  It contradicts the doctrines set out by the Christian faith, as well as what is written in the Christian bible.
  
  One would like to think that 'the church' (proper) would formally acknowledge the existence of such happenings, even if 'the upper clergy' may not fully agree with such experiences. Since these experiences contradict what is written in the Christian bible, you can see why majority of Christians are so unwilling to formally acknowledge such happenings - even though it proves that a spiritual realm exists.
  
  Although, if formal acknowledgement were to ever happen ... it would vastly change (reform?) Christianity in many of its aspects/beliefs.
  Perhaps better aligning the Christian beliefs with the true spiritual realm?
  But then, what other aspects of Christianity have been mis-interpreted as well? ... a thought worth considering.
  Especially since the bible is considered by Christian followers to be a "guidebook" preaching God's word. It would have wide-ranging implications.
• 4.) Out of Body Experiences ('astral projection') in terms of Christianity.
  On numerous Christian websites, they have shown that Christianity acknowledges 'Out of Body Experiences' (OBE's) ... 'astral projection' as not only being possible, but actually real and truly existing. gotquestions.org cites an example from the bible of it happening.
  Apostle Paul - 2 Corinthians 12:1-4. There is also the 2014 movie 'Heaven is for real' which is based on a true story, where a young child of a church pastor has a near-death experience (NDE) and experiences the spiritual realm (heaven).
  
  ALTHOUGH - it should be noted that, any voluntary/intentional OBE is expressly forbidden by the christian faith as it is related to sorcery/occult/divination ("going into god's realm", etc) ... and according to the Christian bible, such people will not inherit god's kingdom (be allowed into 'heaven').
• 5.) Christian teachings regard that the soul can only exist on a single plane at any one time. That is - earth, heaven/hell.
  Christian beliefs are, that the soul is contained within the body - and while a person is alive, the soul cannot exist anywhere else - it is only when someone dies that their soul goes elsewhere - heaven/hell (or purgatory, if you are of the Catholic belief).
  My own personal experiences have taught me that this could quite well be a misaligned view, and that the soul truly exists on multiple planes of existence at any one time (both here on earth + that place called 'heaven' + possibility of elsewhere?).
  One of the reasons why I consider this to be a possibility, is due to something unusual that happened to me when I fell 'in love' with my 2nd love.
  
  Also, the general Christian view is that, once a person's soul is in 'heaven' that it cannot communicate/interact with living people on earth (loved ones, family, etc). How do we know for sure? In truth, we can't.
  Christianity is divided as to whether those that have passed on can observe or 'look in' on those that are here on earth.
  
  The bible is vague as to whether those that have passed on can observe or 'look in' ... there are various verses both for and against, and ultimately it comes down to how the verse is interpreted (eg. there is more than one way to interpret the verse Hebrews 12:1-2).
  Some Christians say that it is possible. Others (eg. gotquestions.org) say that "since a person is now in heaven, they are enjoying a relationship with god, and are too busy to be concerned with that here on earth."
  I have found that it tends to be Christians with traditionalist views based on biblical scripture, that are of the 2nd opinion.
  
  When you look at more modern real-life examples, there are plenty of Christians that are of the belief that those who have passed on can observe or 'look in'. Eg. the 2014 movie Heaven is for real ... Jessie Duplantis: close encounters of the god kind ... Rebecca Springer: Within Heavens Gates ... Kat Kurr: revealing heaven.
• 6.) Sexual relationships involving same gender, GLBTIQA, etc.
  If it is so profoundly wrong, then why does the spiritual realm (christian god in this sense) permit for these couples to be in love in the first place? Doesn't the very existence of these people being 'in love' mean that it is permitted and accepted in the eyes of the christian god?
  Please read the following page, justin's view - a gay christian for a balanced discussion regarding this topic.
  For statistical data on how the US public's views have changed from 1977-to-present, see Gallup.com : gay and lesbian rights.
  
  In July 2013, Pope Francis indicated a softer side to homosexuality and gay marriage.
  In reply to a question about gay priests (2013), Pope Francis' answer was ...

  "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" (#5)

  In September 2013, Pope Francis urged for a historic easing of rigid Catholic doctrine in regards to homosexuality among other things.
  Pope Francis' views are at odds with the traditionalist views of the Catholic church. Perhaps a shift in the church's ingrained thinking is sorely needed. Also, other Christian groups are gradually reconsidering their stance on the issue.
  In an October 2013 news article, the Anglican diocese in Western Australia voted to recognise same-sex marriages. Although, in late October 2013 the Anglican archbishop ultimately overruled, and vetoed the bid. Perhaps this Christian faith wasn't yet ready to confront such matters? Perhaps still bound by out-of-date Christian views? Maybe at a future point the Anglican diocese will decide differently?
  
  The world wants what the world wants ... and currently the spirits and souls of the world want same-sex marriage.

  In the United States of America, same-sex marriage was legalised nationwide on June 26th, 2015. The Supreme Court's verdict meant there was a federal ruling, which over-ruled all previous state rulings. The USA isn't the only country to legalise same-sex marriage.

  As of March 2017 - in over 23 countries throughout the world, same-sex marriage is now legal.
  Although, in many eastern countries (such as Asia/Singapore, Africa, the Middle East, Nigeria, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, United Arab Emirates) - these are countries where the majority religion is Muslim based ... whereby simply being in a same-sex relationship could still constitute committing a criminal offence (which could include the death penalty).

  Refer to ABCnews : Pride, prejudice and punishment: Gay rights around the world - which also includes a nifty graphic on "the state of marriage rights" (article posted 2017.03.04)
  
  Collectively ... humanity as a whole is making a decisive change.
  We may live in different parts of the world, yet the people of the entire world are making the change together.

  So, why do people get married? ... perhaps it has to do with LOVE !!!

  It's an expression of that love - an external way of expressing what is happening at the spiritual (unseen) level.
  For loved ones, family, close friends, etc to bear witness to the love (or bond) that exists between the couple.

  And from a legal sense : to be recognised together as a couple, in the eyes of the law (eg. executing a Will, Power of Attorney, etc).
  
  'Romantic Love' is often described as something that involves the "inner beauty" of a person - it is more than just skin deep - seeing the person for who they truly are ... the soul that lies behind the outer form (beyond the physical body as such).
  What if two people of the same sex are deeply 'in love' with each other, is that not a valid reason for them to marry?
  
  In my view ... 'romantic love' is more to do with what's happening at the spiritual/soul level ... regardless of the gender of the people involved.
  It is my belief, that I consider 'the soul' to be non-gender specific, that exists as a separate entity (to the body or local-mind) - yet still connected to the body in some way ... but to have that view also hints at the notion of reincarnation.

  Regarding same-sex marriage (and the recent debate in AU - early 2015) ... aside from the religious aspect, many of those opposed tend to be pushing the point "what about the children of same-sex couples, how will it affect these kids growing up?"
  Briefly, I would like to stress ... marriage isn't just about having children! That's not the true reason behind marrying someone.

  Not every (heterosexual) couple that enters into marriage ends up going down the path of having children. This may be because they either don't want to (or can't) have children ... yet society still allows these couples to get married in the first place! Also, there are many various factors in terms of a child's upbringing that can effect on how they turn out (and the life they lead) - which certainly exists in some heterosexual relationships ... eg. drugs, abusive/neglective parents, low socio-economic area, etc.
  Lastly, the general scientific consensus is that there is ...
  No evidence that children of same sex couples are negatively impacted (Science Daily article 2015.06.15).

  While the issue of children is important in the debate, similar to that of the religious discussion ...
  I certainly don't feel that it is the crux as to why Same-sex couples shouldn't be allowed to get married.
  
  Related : Australia's biggest businesses have thrown their weight behind the push for gay marriage (abc.net.au 2015.05.29).

  A 2013 US poll showed that the majority, 53% of poll respondents now support gay marriage (compared to 32% in 2003).
  From that study, the religious breakdown of the poll is ... practicing Jewish Americans (83% in support for), white mainstream Protestants (62% in support for), white Catholics (58% in support for), and Hispanic Catholics (56% in support for).
  The only groups that didn't have majority support were .... Hispanic Protestants (46% in support for), black Protestants (35% in support for), and white evangelical Protestants (27% in support for).
  So while 'the church' (proper), nor what is written in the bible - support gay marriage, there are certainly many Christians that do.
  
  Christianity ('the church') is alienating itself from the rest of the world, especially by trying to link gay marriage (present day) to bestiality and rape (acts which did occur in times of when the bible was written, referenced as 'clobber passages' within the bible) ... but present day homosexuality is far different than that of when Jesus was alive. It's almost as if this sexual minority group is still being persecuted for despicable and horrific acts that occurred over 2000 years ago, just because they have a similar sexual affiliation.
  
  Quite abit of hetero sex is also sinful including ... premarital sex, casual hookups, bdsm, infidelity, viewing pornography, etc. (#6)
  Other than the sin of disbelief (rejecting salvation, disobeying god), Christ teaches that there is no single sin that is worse than the other. Sin is sin, irrespective of how small. There is no such thing as a 'little sin' or a 'big sin.' Christ also teaches, all sin leads to eternal damnation.
  
  

  Related to this point - and I highly suggest for all to read (even people that are involved in heterosexual relationships) ...
  6 Things You Probably Didn't Know About Christianity And Sex : Huffington Post : religion section ... which delves into the history.
  The article concludes with the following statement ...

  It's time to get real : There is no such thing as a traditional Christian sexual ethic.

• 7.) Marriage and divorce.

  In a 2015 Huffington Post : religion article, it was suggested that ...

  The pervasiveness of heterosexual divorce is perhaps more of a danger to "the institution of marriage" than that of same-sex marriage. Is divorce not something that undermines [traditional heterosexual] marriage, and all that it stands for?

  Christianity teaches that "marriage is God's gift to humanity to be lived out by one man and one woman for life." (#7)

  In these modern times, many people involved in the debate seem to forget about those final two words for life, yet it needs to be reminded ... The 'traditional Christian' view is that ... marriage is : between one man, and one woman, for life (until death do us part).

  Some people (eg. during debates regarding same-sex marriage) like to make the point - that marriage is between a man and a woman - while disregarding the other part of the Christian view ... but it needs to be re-iterated that married [heterosexual] couples are bound together for life. To bring divorce, and re-marriage into society ... it's essentially going against the 'traditional Christian views' ... Let's not forget that.

  Refer to bible passages ... Gen 2:18, Gen 2:24, 1 Corinthians 7
  Some Christian churches will ex-communicate a person and exclude them from any involvement with the church if they try to re-marry.

  Scripture from the bible :
  Matthew 5:32 ... "But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
  
  For many centuries the Roman Catholic church has debated as to whether there is a valid reason for divorce. However in 1563, the indissolubility of marriage was added to the canon law. Since that day, Catholic doctrine has been that divorce is unacceptable, but separation of spouses can be permitted.
  When modern Catholics get divorced, they generally side-step the issue of what scripture states - by getting an Annulment (a process that isn't easy to go through) ... essentially, an annulment means that the marriage was doomed to failure right from the start, due to various reasons, hence it was never "a true marriage in the eyes of God".
  
  Yet we live in a society where divorce and being able to re-marry a different person is not only accepted, but is commonplace.
  Thus, it is wrong to counteract Gay Marriage on the basis of Christian views, as our marriage laws already contradict Christianity.

  Historically, the institution of marriage has taught a harsh line of submission - the wife must submit or be subservient to their husband. In times past, the female has been considered at a lower standing in the relationship ... not only does the Christian bible reinforce this stance, but it has been a part of general society well up until the early 1900's.

  For more on Marriage and Christianity, please read this article "Biblical Marriage is Not What You Think". The article is from The Huffington Post - religion section (dated 30.04.2015). The article highlights, that the institution of marriage has changed over the years, and today's marriage laws are different to that of Biblical times. The article also sheds light on the subject of 'Gay Marriage'.
  The progressive changes that have been made so far, have helped to strengthen the institution of marriage and made it both more accessible and more just for all of society.

  As society changes, so too has the definition of marriage - and what it means to those that go down the path of marriage.

  Divorce is no longer a social taboo.

  The definition of marriage is changing, from a religious view to a more societal view ... of marriage being a social contract, governed by civil laws, rather than a sacred covenant, witnessed and guaranteed by God himself. Instead of promising each other faithfulness "till death do us part", many couples are adopting the modern version of the marriage vow, by pledging to remain together "as long as we both shall love".

  In September 2014, I received some correspondence, after I contacted an Australian Federal MP (member of parliament) posing some questions to him regarding marriage and de-facto relationships. This MP is an outspoken Christian (of Catholic faith), with very strong Christian views. At the time of the email correspondence, he was Minister for Social Services (families, housing and human services) .. holding the portfolio from 18th September 2013 until 23rd December 2014.
  
  The MP has sometimes publically inferred that : there is no reason that de-facto relationships should exist, all Australian [heterosexual] couples should be married.
  While it would be wrong to disclose that email due to privacy, there is one part that I can mention (due to the fact that the minister has used external references in his reply to back up his point of view, he has also posted some material on his own personal blog page, also there are some comments that the minister has already made within the public arena previously).
  
  De-facto couples are living in Sin.
  
  In the email, this MP does state (in a too formal manner) that "the decision to marry or enter into a de-facto relationship is a personal choice for individuals" - a statement that the MP has made publically previously. Although, his personal/private views give a different perspective than what he has said as a minister (eg. on his personal website/blog) - this comes back to his faith being a strong foundation for his views/beliefs.
  In our personal relationships there is currently freedom of choice as to how we live our lives, I strongly hope that this freedom would still exist well into the future.
  
  The MP I contacted does have a strong Christian faith - and much of his life has been dedicated to traditional Christian beliefs ... eg. he's been an advisor to an anti-abortion group, also being a public speaker at the FCA - which has a history of regarding homosexuality as the manifestation of a psychiatric disorder.

  Historically speaking : people of Christian faith have generally looked down upon those in de-facto relationships (in a similar way as to those that engage in same-sex relationships, just to a lesser degree), as it goes against the 'traditional' Christian teachings.
  
  Yet, it is important for all to remember - society has progressed and evolved ... modern society does cover a broad scope of inter-personal relationships. We are all unique and our relationships that we're involved in are unique and special as well.
  There is no single relationship model that fits all relationships that exist in society today.
  As we enter further into a post-Christian era, with far fewer people identifying as Christian ... the Christian view of marriage (as well as the specific definition of such), certainly doesn't fit everyone in Australia, nor should those concepts be unfairly placed on others.
• 8.) To be allowed into 'heaven' you must accept Jesus Christ as your saviour.
  This is a core fundamental belief held by all of Christian faith, which is strengthened by several verses in the bible.
  Yet in recent years there has been an increasing number of people of non-Christian faith, 'going into heaven', 'experiencing heaven', as well as 'communicating with a God' ... myself included.
  I would also like to say, I haven't believed in the christian version of the spiritual realm since I was a teenager, and without doubt, my current view is far different than what christianity considers to be true. So why have I had experiences in 'heaven', when I am so strongly against accepting the belief of Christ as being my saviour? Does Christianity have misaligned views?
  
  As these experiences of 'heaven' have become more common-place amongst non-Christians, for the most part, people of Christian faith have shunned away from discussing how this is possible altogether ... as it challenges what they have been taught about God, heaven, etc.
  Has Christianity in its current form made an error of judgement regarding the spiritual/divine realm? Is the spiritual realm ('heaven') in fact not bound by such strict beliefs as what is taught by the main Christian groups?
  At this point Esotericism and the astral plane world-view seems to make more sense.
  
  I would also like to add - to me, the spiritual realm ('heaven') appears to be about growth (of our own souls) - and this can partially be achieved through kindness, compassion, etc - one of the few areas that christianity and my own views seem to be in agreement ... but do we need to turn to another entity (christ) to do this for us? Surely the solution lies within ourselves - we are our own saviour.
  In the book 'we don't die' George mentions that the souls say to him that "once a soul has passed into the spiritual realm after death, if the soul doesn't shape up, face truths, be willing to grow, etc - then the soul won't progress and will flounder."
• 9.) Eternal damnation.
  Why would a kind divine god wish for humans to be living in a constant fear of the possibility of an eternal life in hell? The human wondering if just one small wrongdoing could send them to an eternity of extreme pain and torment?
  Also, the belief that the human soul comes to earth as incomplete, or is inferior, and needs salvation in order to be saved.
  
  A debate on 720am radio (early 2012) springs to mind.
  The guest speaker sighting back to his days of a catholic upbringing, about the 'sister' (of the church) telling him he must not do 'such&such' in class or he'll be doomed to hell for all eternity - and how such a statement had impacted negatively on him for many years afterwards.
  Surely, a kind divine god would rule with a velvet glove, not an iron fist.
  
  Also related to this point - the catholic belief that :

  By saying a few "hail mary's" during confession, church, etc ...
  That a person can be absolved of ALL their sins/wrong-doings (no matter how abhorrent) that they have done. And hence be assured that they will be saved and not go to hell (and in some cases, also abstain from any legal responsibility).
  
  To me (at least) ... this path doesn't offer any true forgiveness, or resolving of negative karma - as the karma has been created between the individual person and the person/soul that suffered or was hurt (NOT between the perpetrator and god).
  Why ask god for forgiveness when ultimately, god isn't the one that the perpetrator hurt ???
  I feel, that this can only truly be resolved between the accused and the victim ... either by proper interaction, by sending positive mental thoughts (towards the victim - and mentally asking the victim for forgiveness), or resolving the karma over future interactions/lifetimes.
  The other side of the coin is - if the victim continues to hold onto negative thoughts, resentment, anger - then that also does little to resolve the karma that has been created. Even if the perpetrator repents (with god), the karma will continue to exist until it is resolved (between the souls of those directly involved) ... "To err is human, to forgive is divine"

  Although, the notion of karma doesn't exactly harmonise with the general christian beliefs (except for the concept of when God decides whether a person's soul goes to heaven/hell).
  The Christian interpretation of karma is explained within this link.
• 10.) Christianity and Reincarnation.
  Christianity rejects reincarnation for several reasons, including that it is contradicted in christian scripture.
  Yet, a 1999 Gallup poll in the US shows that over 20% of people who self-identify as christians believe in reincarnation. (#8)
  Polls in previous years also yielded similar results.
  Then there are also some people that speculate that christianity in it's early form did believe in reincarnation, yet at some stage (533 AD ?) the christian views were changed by the roman catholic church and in doing so, removing all mentions of it from the bible.
  
  Also, it is almost impossible to discuss reincarnation without talking about karma : the two go hand-in-hand (a prior point highlights this).
  The notion of soulmates also ties in closely with reincarnation ... although, soulmates isn't a christian idea and has no biblical origin.
  Poll statistics vary, but they all conclude with a high percentage of the general population believing in the concept of soulmates existing in one form or another. Eg : 88% (2001 National Marriage Project at Rutgers University) ... 73% (US Marist Poll 2011).
  
  Are Christianity and Reincarnation mutually exclusive ideas? Doesn't one contradict the other? Perhaps not. Those reading this may be wondering ... can you still hold many of the Christian beliefs while still considering the possibility of reincarnation.
  Perhaps you haven't heard of Christian Gnosticism (which is considered to be a sub-group within Christianity).
  The crux of Christian Gnosticism - is that it blends much of the thinking of the early mystics with that of Christianity.
  
  It should strongly be noted ... in the early centuries the orthodox Church was a very powerful figure within society, with the church declaring their own beliefs and doctrines to be absolute and true, and that these should never be questioned. Those that did were dealt with harshly.
  Those that asked questions were declared to be not 'true Christians', and hence it was deemed that anyone who was a Christian Gnostic to be a heretic ... and the orthodox church basically outcast these people from the rest of society (in some cases heretics were killed for simply believing in a different view).
  At the time, it was a criminal offence to bring into question 'the official' beliefs and doctrines. This was also at a time in history when almost 100% of the western population had traditional Christian views, hence the orthodox Church had extremely influential powers over society.
  
  

  The reason reincarnation was declared a heresy was because of the eschatological teachings of death and judgement which were established as orthodox Christian doctrine. In simplicity this doctrine states man has just one life in which to merit his eternal reward or damnation. Such a doctrine also strengthened the Church. However, to this very day ... many Christians still believe in reincarnation because they think it was taught by Christ.

  Modern society is much more accepting of Christian Gnosticism, even if it does deviate from that set out by 'traditional' orthodox Christianity.
• 11.) Mormon/evangelical church of the latter day saints.
  Why should a religion require it's followers to give 10% of their financial income to the church? This is the case with some of these christian faiths. Predominately found in the US, it is one of the fastest growing religions in the world (in terms of relative growth compared to existing size - april 2012 statistics).
• 12.) The Australian Catholic church can't be sued directly - ie. in cases of child sexual abuse.
  This scenario is unique to only the Australian Catholic church, all other religious groups or organisations in Australia are held accountable for the actions of those that work within it - and hence are open to being sued if injustice has been done.
  It should be noted that : while the Australian Catholic church can offer limited compensation (a private 'closed doors' approach at the church's discretion), there is very little for the victims to instigate action of their own accord, and have it on public record.
  
  The issue has been thrust into the spotlight again during 2012. One area that the royal commission will be looking at is to whether this ruling should still be upheld. A more in-depth review can be found on abc.net.au - AM program. As well as abc.net.au : religion - best of 2012.
• 13.) Westboro Bapist Church of Topeka, Kansas.
  I thought that this Christian group needs special mentioning. In recent years, they have been in the news.
  Many would consider that this Christian faith take their views to the extreme end of the spectrum ...
  People talk of 'extremist Islam', yet 'extremist Christianity' certainly exists - their interpretation of the Christian bible is slightly different.
  
  Its members picket the funerals of US soldiers, and victims of AIDS and gay bashings, brandishing signs reading, "God Hates Fags," "AIDS Cures Fags," and "Thank God for AIDS." The pastor of this church reportedly once sent a "condolence" card to the bereaved mother of an AIDS victim, reading "Another Dead Fag."
  They also picket funerals of celebrities, eg. Paul Walker ('fast and furious' actor) who tragically died in 2013. Westboro also said that they were going to picket Nelson Mandela's funeral (although never actually followed through with it) as Nelson Mandela had been married 3 times, and divorced twice. Which is somewhat contradictory to Christian teachings.
  
  The Westboro Bapist Church directly addresses the question of its hatefulness and cruelty on its web site ...
  "Why do you preach hate? Because the bible preaches hate. For every one verse about god's mercy, love, compassion, etc., there are two verses about his vengeance, hatred, wrath, etc."
  
  In my opinion, this 'church' has extremist views and should be treated as such - similar to how we treat extremist Islam.
  It doesn't speak truths, but rather spreads hatred and incites violence ... whereas GOD's true messengers (regardless of their religious background) all preach kindness, compassion, etc.
  The reason why this 'church' has been allowed to protest the way it does, is due to America's 1st amendment, the democratic right to free speech ... one wonders what would happen if Al-Qaeda/IS held public protests in a similar manner on US soil? But since Westboro has Christian origins and what the church preaches has some footing in the Christian bible, it is somewhat tolerated (to a degree).
  
  Lastly, Westboro Baptist Church violates "The Golden Rule of ALL religions" - to be kind to one another ... enough said.
  
  In 2014, when the church's founder Fred Phelps died, a major US news website highlighted the point in an article ... that what Westboro preaches about homosexuality is similar to that of what is currently being preached within the churches of the major religions throughout America (just that Westboro uses more vulgar language).
  The big difference - the other churches confine it to sermons, behind closed church doors within the church grounds, whereas Westboro was different - they took that very same message out onto the streets, and put it directly in the face of society ... on a daily basis.
  Some speculate, that this has actually helped to strengthen the gay rights movement in America - and a greater number of people are growing disheartened with religion because of the anti-gay messages from religious groups (this resentment is not just directed towards Westboro, but Christianity in general has been negatively impacted because of this).
  
  In August 2014, when Robin Williams passed on ... Westboro threatened to picket his memorial - as well as announcing on twitter that "Robin Williams is in hell" due to him playing gay roles and supporting US troops.
  Personally, I think a rebuttal by Adam Hills (the comedian) sums it up perfectly.
• 14.) Is the Christian bible factual?
  Since the bible is essentially a collection of writings from various authors spanning over a 1000 years - and the early accounts (eg. Moses) were only told in songs and poetry but not written down until years later - it is quite likely that some of what is written is simply folklore and embellished stories. Humans have been big story-tellers as long as we have lived.

  An AU Nielson poll in 2009 gave a result of only 27% believing the bible to be true.
  A 2006 Gallup poll in the US gave a figure of 30% of respondents .... which means that roughly 50% of Christians believe that the bible isn't factual (a quantifiable assumption, based on that 61% of the population are christian) - which has huge implications when you consider that the bible is central to Christian teachings.
  
  The new testament closes with a majestic book of visions and dramatic views of the future, written by Apostle Paul. Some of what he writes is universal to new-age philosophies and spiritual ideas ... some would say, a christian perspective of 'the age of aquarius'. Perhaps humanity is truly on the cusp of creating 'Heaven on earth?' An idealised future vision of humanity, all our souls are working towards. A suggested read regarding 'heaven on earth' is - The Book of Life - ascension and the divine world order.

• 15.) The belief that animals don't have a soul or continue to exist beyond this physical life.
  This is primarily a traditional Catholic belief that is specific to that particular faith, rather than Christianity as a whole.
  This belief is mainly due to the notion of salvation being something that is for the souls of humans only.
  It is also worth noting : that in December 2014 Pope Francis indicated a softening on this stance. This is in stark contrast from his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI, who was clear in his sermons that animals don't go to "heaven".

Perhaps the catholic/christian church will change their views to reflect a more modern society, just as it has changed it's views on many issues previously.

- Endorsement of slavery : revolution started around the mid 1800's, but some bans and written texts weren't changed until as late as 1978.

let us remember, what the Christian bible says regarding slavery : Leviticus 25:44-46 ...yet the bible also speaks of freeing the Jesuits from slavery. it also shows that Christianity has changed and evolved over time ... to keep in line with society of the era.

- 1968 : female contraceptive pill.
- 1962 : the catholic church initially opposing the views of Martin Luther King Jr : civil rights.
- Witchcraft punishable by death : more of a society issue that existed mainly between the 1500's to 1800's, but in Papua New Guinea where more than 96% of the population have christian beliefs, and the catholic church still having a strong influence - as recently as February 2013 - a spate of 'witch' killings has highlighted the need for change to the 'traditional' law in this country. Much pressure has come from the UN. (#9)

Major positives
The church (catholicism/christianity/anglican) certainly needs to be congratulated too. They do many great things for society.

- Bringing people together.

As people desire interaction with others, and we all like the 'warm fuzzy' feeling that comes from group environments.
When entering a church (or even an islamic mosque) many people can 'feel a warm glow' come over them (as has been suggested in one of the books I've read, perhaps it has to do with collective positive thought - kind souls - congregating together, and less about the religious affiliation of the building that they are in).

- Charity work, helping homeless or less fortunate.
- Decent ethics, values and morals to live by.

(eg. 'doing what's right, good and just', honesty, integrity, responsibility, respect, fairness)

- Also many more positives (both direct + indirect) to mention. Visit ERLC for more.

(please bare in mind, that above-linked paper is hosted on a christian website, it is more to do with positives VS 'tax exempt status')

Although, the above qualities are also what I consider strengths in any organisation or business.

Christianity - in recent years it has become the complementary and redundant religion.
Society identifies with Christianity, yet many of those having almost no formal interaction with the church.
Australian people identifying as Christians is on the decline -

... from 96% in 1911 ... to 68% in 2001,
... to 61% in 2011,
... and the most recent 52% in 2016. (#10)

Many people may say that they are Christian - purely because they may not know much else, or perhaps because due to a lack of spiritual understanding (ie. not being taught the true depths of christianity through church).
So while many people may identify as Christian, one must ask ... is this purely because they have made no conscious choice on the issue?
Do their actions (or inactions) mirror that of what is set out by christianity?
That is what should be measured.
Over time, I have come to know of some everyday people that have 'considered' themselves to be christians (ie. wearing a cross) ... yet the way they act towards others is anything but in a kind 'christian' way.

To me ... Christianity/Spirituality signifies kindness to others, helping others in need, putting others needs before your own, absolute honesty and sincerity and generally being an all-round nice-person. All qualities that exhibit compassion for others and having a spiritual understanding that we actively or intentionally choose to lead 'a just life' where we treat others with respect.

But then ... why should those values/ideals to be tied to any specific religion?
Surely, these qualities can also exist in people of other religions, or that are non-religious.